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Diskussion

El papel del aprendizaje de adultos como ayuda en la carrera profesional

06/11/2018
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Como parte del enfoque temático de noviembre, EPALE está organizando una discusión escrita sobre el papel de la educación de adultos para ayudar a los empleados a adaptarse al mundo del trabajo que cambia rápidamente.


La discusión tendrá lugar en esta página el 22 de noviembre a las 10:00 CET y será moderada por el Coordinador Temático de EPALE David Mallows. No pierda la oportunidad de compartir sus opiniones y experiencias con la comunidad EPALE sobre cualquiera de los siguientes temas:

10:00-12:30 CET

  • ¿Cómo puede la educación de adultos responder a las necesidades de los adultos que trabajan en la economía libre  (el enlace es externo)?
    • Con un número cada vez mayor de ocupaciones que implican trabajar de forma independiente en plataformas electrónicas, ¿cómo puede la educación de adultos responder de manera habitual a sus necesidades, para garantizar que su autonomía y efectividad no se vean afectadas por su aislamiento y falta de peso colectivo?
    • ¿Cómo podemos identificar, validar y promover las nuevas habilidades que sustentan la efectividad de las personas involucradas en trabajar de esta manera?
  • Sabemos que aquellos con altos niveles de calificaciones tienen más probabilidades de participar en la formación y educación en el lugar de trabajo. ¿Cómo podemos apoyar el desarrollo profesional de aquellos en trabajos que requieren pocas habilidades?
    • ¿Cómo podemos asegurarnos de que un círculo vicioso de baja demanda, que conduce al deterioro de las habilidades existentes y la falta de desarrollo de nuevas habilidades (digital, alfabetización, aritmética, etc.) no conduce a una exclusión social y la creación de una subclase de trabajadores?

La discusión estará abierta incluso durante el tiempo de la comida

13:30-16:00 CET

  • La mayor parte del aprendizaje en el trabajo es informal: aprendemos unos de otros observando, hablando y probando nuevas habilidades. ¿Cómo puede la educación de adultos colaborar con los empleadores para validar dicho aprendizaje, haciendo que las habilidades de los adultos sean más visibles sin crear sistemas de reconocimiento engorrosos?
  • ¿Cómo pueden los empleadores crear culturas de aprendizaje en sus lugares de trabajo que ayuden a sus empleados a responder a las demandas que se les imponen y prosperar en sus carreras?
    • ¿Qué incentivos para aprender pueden proporcionar los empleadores?
    • ¿Cómo pueden los gobiernos garantizar que sus políticas de aprendizaje de adultos sean proactivas, eviten los déficits de habilidades de las personas en el empleo, en lugar de solo responder cuando las personas se quedan sin empleo?

Nos encantaría conocer las iniciativas y proyectos en los que ha estado involucrado y que ayudan a los adultos a aprender y trabajar.

También puedes echar un vistazo al blog sobre este tema de Simon Broek

**Los comentarios se abrirán el 19 de noviembre, por tanto los participantes  podrán presentarse  o colgar sus intervenciones de antemano.

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I agree Sarah. I posted this comment earlier:
Adult education is about much more than equipping people with skills to be better workers. Adult education has positive outcomes in terms of physical and mental health, confidence, team working, learning skills etc. that mean that even if the adult education is not workplace focused, it can have a positive impact on performance in the workplace. 
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Reports confirm that big and medium corporations, even in Portugal, have their one Training Programme and Talents retention processes that include Education&Training offers. However we have to focus on solutions for sme´s. I stand for two steps at EU level:
- one to go trough an open and universal online offer (MOOC's are ok if related with an excellent communication and collaborative tool).This offer will also include Universities and Technical Faculties as it seems now will be placed by the Comission;
- The national framework offer (National Catalogues) must priorize online courses and social media facilities including methodologies for accelerate learning collectivelly and gamification as well.
Of course Epale must be drastically improved in order to support better and more a vision for the Future of Learning in Europe.
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Both useful suggestions Etelberto, though I am not convinced of the potential for MOOCs as a delivery mechanism for anything other than declarative content for those who are already skilled learners. We should certainly investigate the possibilities provided by new technology/social media etc. but we need to make sure that we do so in an inclusive way. 
My other concern in this area is that, as you say, it is possible to oblige / encourage big companies to engage in workplace training, but the majority of people work in small or micro businesses and it is much more difficult for them to provide training / encourage the employees to engage.
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In Germany, as part of their political programme for the future, the CDU (?) have suggested a centralised online platform for further training and development. It's meant to be a one stop shop for People to go access quality assured validated learning offers (by accredited providers), specifically targeted to their Needs. It's meant to be in small Nuggets to be accessible anywhere any time.

While principally this is a great idea, there are a whole host of challenges to be resolved... not least the projected cost of 3-5 Billion Euros.
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Für mich ist das informelle Lernen in einem Unternehmen von großer Bedeutung. Die sogenannte "Kaffeeküche" ist ein guter Treffpunkt um sich in einer "lockeren" Umgebung zu unterhalten, auszutauschen und voneinander zu lernen. Es ist auch immer wieder zu hören, dass einige Unternehmen die Karriereleiter ihrer Mitarbeiter, Mitarbeiterinnen forcieren, indem sie Personen, die in ihrem Betrieb als Lehrlinge angefangen haben, auch eine hohe leitende Funktion ermöglichen. Die formale Ausbildung rückt somit in den Hintergrund. Interessant war für mich die Information von Verantwortlichen in Erwachsenenbildungseinrichtigungen, dass Trainer, Trainerinnen, die sich für ein von der Regierung beauftragtes Projekt engagieren wollen, grundsätzlich formale Grundbedingungen erfüllen müssen. Meiner Meinung nach ist aber (insbesondere in der beruflichen Weiterbildung) das Lernen von Personen mit Praxis und Erfahrungen wichtig.


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GOOGLE TRANSLATED: For me, informal learning in a company is very important. The so-called "coffee kitchen" is a good meeting place to talk, exchange and learn from each other in a "relaxed" environment. It is also common to hear that some companies are pushing the career ladder of their employees by giving people who started their apprenticeships a high executive role. The formal education thus moves into the background. It was interesting for me to inform leaders in adult education institutions that trainers, trainers, who want to get involved in a project commissioned by the government, basically have to fulfill basic formal conditions. However, in my opinion (especially in CVET) learning from people with experience and experience is important.
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Validation is a complex procedure and requires articulation with national/international standards. Employers must not have that burden also that deviates them for their main mission. Only to be aware of it and to make sure that their investment in training is worth while and brings to the professional involved credits and recognition of the new competencies.  If the new competencies are already at the National Catalogue Framework (how much must we be awaiting for the European one?) an easy and not bureaucratic process must be used. 
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4 – What incentives to learn can employers provide? 

Employers can encourage their employees to adhere to qualification solutions by providing tailor-made training for each employee. This can be done by designing an individual training plan that combines the life history of each worker with its expirations and the needs of the companies. 

In Portugal was created in 2017 the Passport Qualifica. This passport is a tool that companies can use for the management and training of their human resources. The use of this tool is completely free and can be done by enterprises in association with Qualifica Center (these centers have specialized professionals who can assist companies in identifying the best qualification paths for each worker). The Passport Qualifica allows human resources managers to perceive in an integrated way what training the worker already has and how far away he / she can is from what he / she wants, proposing solutions to obtain the necessary training to reach a certain level of qualification. As all studies report, workers tend to be motivated to obtain more qualification when they have a higher level of qualification. Therefore, if companies take the first step they will be able to position workers on a new level from which workers themselves become more interested in further qualification and accept to participate in lifelong learning activities. A good incentive also involves the possibility of workers training in the workplace. 

In Portugal, Qualifica Centers often goes to companies, ensuring that the processes of recognition, validation and certification of competencies are carried out there.  
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I worked longer in a co-working space...we had developed an own culture...it was naturally to ask others for help or assessments...everybody agreed to help others for a certain time of the day: whatever it was from coding problems to legal things...however, maybe adult education can think about what supports an culture of sharing and collaboration
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I think that's a very important point - a lot of people are brought up in a competitive and defensive environment, so that true collaboration and idea sharing seems foreign. There are real benefits in learning from start-up culture, co-working spaces etc.
We should think about a course to switch to that kind of working and thinking a bit more...